Gottfried: tell me, Mr. Heron, does Socrates come to see you regularly with his questions?
Baruch: oh yes, he disturbs the fish when he does it but he distracts me and he is not mean.
Gottfried: it’s true, he seems harmless but he reminds me of humans, always worried, always uncertain. As if we had to understand the why of things when the world could not be better.
Baruch: that’s their nature I guess. They want to have clear ideas before deciding anything, this is how they come to certainties. When they walk around the ponds, I hear them and I tell myself that they are rarely a quiet species. Niccolò is undoubtedly responsible for the situation.
Gottfried: yes, you’re right, he made them lose their innocence and their trust.
Baruch: they now need to discuss everything to reach a consensus, yet they have remained very individualistic.
Gottfried: this is still one of the paradoxes that characterize them. Alone, they could let themselves be guided by their instincts and their intuitions, but because the group always asks them for justifications, they must find rational arguments.
Baruch: the only advantage is that the rules they create for living together allow them to fight against their selfish inclinations.
Gottfried: it’s only because they’re not selfish enough to understand that being good is the best way to preserve yourself. Replacing common sense with obligations is less effective.
Baruch: you are right, but acting collectively is not necessarily a bad calculation for survival.
Gottfried: no doubt, but I still prefer my independence. I’m going to tell you a secret about humans: sing and they’ll give you seeds, especially in winter. It proves that they have not lost their sense of harmony, just forgotten it exists because they ask themselves too many questions.
Baruch: that’s interesting, my dear Gottfried. The problem for me is that I sing badly and don’t like seeds. Do you think they would have fish?
Gottfried: I don’t know but their feeders are small, you couldn’t perch there. In addition, you are right, your song is not very harmonious, it might annoy them.
Baruch: that’s the fate of those who are different, they don’t attract compassion. How can I please them?
Gottfried: by your patience and your wisdom, dear Baruch. This is what attracts Socrates, this is what should make them like you.
Baruch: you are right, that suits me well, but will they come to feed me?
Gottfried: if you croak a little when they approach, they will probably be pained for you and be willing to help you!
Baruch: take care, my friend, my beak is powerful and I will cut your whistle if you make too much fun of me.
Gottfried: you will never catch me, dear Baruch, you are too slow to get started when you want to fly!
Want to think a a little more? See, for example, The Political Treatise where Spinoza defines the principles of political philosophy.
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